I have gone all in post flop, pre …

24 Apr

Comment posted Why I fucking HATE full tilt poker by l.

I have gone all in post flop, pre river 10 times in the last 48 hours. All but one time i was first or second chip leader in either a 10, 20, or 30 SNG, aside from the other time where I was playing for cash and lost 22.37$ with a pair of 6′s post flop to AK who hit a king on the river, of course. I lost 8 of those 10 times. All ten times I was a 72% or better favorite to win the hand from where it stood. For everyone who has a similar story awesome, for anyone else I dont care about your fucking opinion on the subject and you are wrong. Numbers do not lie, FUCK FULL TILT I will never use that garbage program ever again.

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  1. mona 07. Dec, 2009 at 10:09 pm #

    hey sean i totally agree with you…i just uninstalled it from my comp to. you are the man, man.

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  2. Sean 07. Dec, 2009 at 10:55 pm #

    finally…someone making some sense! Get rid of that shit Mona!!

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  3. Rick 11. Dec, 2009 at 4:36 pm #

    Dude this is on key. I just want to buy cheap viagra online.

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  4. Sean 15. Dec, 2009 at 6:12 pm #

    don’t we all

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  5. fuckyoudouchebagmothafuckas 13. Feb, 2010 at 4:25 am #

    fuck those mothafuckas.  I called about my 100 dollar deposit.  To win back the other 100 i lost to of course stupid bad beats like a $%^@$ing 89 suited beating a KK or 9 10 suited beating an AA what the #%^@ seriously Im f$#%^*g done dude I cant take this Im gonnna pull my fucking hair out.  Just good to know Im not the only one!!!!! This site is fucking rigged I couldnt even understand fucking tech support.  Its my own fault I only speak English, Spanish, and Italian I dont know fucking Iranian or whatever that fucker was telling me about my godamn credit card it card Im so fucking sick of losing money on that goddamn site.  I quit smoking.  So help me I will never touch a fucking card for the rest of my godam life.  I fucking hate Full Tilt Poker FTP full tilt poker go fuck yourself

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  6. Hell yeah@blowme.com 13. Feb, 2010 at 4:32 am #

    Stop using $%#^#$ signs you pussy. Stop whineing the fucking site is fucking rigged you dumb bastard. Its illegal in many states if you just read the fucking law bitch. The states that is legal in dont give a fuck if you lose your fucking money cause the fucking injuns are losing out you fagot mothafucker.  Eat my cum bitch.  Fuck FTP and fuck you faggot!!!!!

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  7. Sean 13. Feb, 2010 at 12:27 pm #

    solid stuff, huh? I haven’t touched the software since I wrote this post

    lol…I love u too pumpkin

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  8. michael 05. Apr, 2010 at 7:04 am #

    im with you this.any dumb bo that thinks this fucking fulltilt shit is not rigged thay are going broke.And to all the fuckers behind this scam sould hang there heads in same.after all they started out with nothing like the rest of us now there ripping the fuck out of us unreal.its back to live poker for me bricks and morter thats the only way..

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  9. Poker Invest 24. Apr, 2010 at 2:44 pm #

    I have been playing poker for years. I have a poker blog (http://allthatspoker.blogspot.com/) where I post videos, my results and stuff like that. I have made some money of FT but I can’t take that fucking site anymore. They fucking suuuuuuuuuuuuuuck. I don’t think they have a RNG. I have played thousands of hands on their site and let me tell you, I am sick and fucking tired of their bullshit. It comes to the point that when I am holding AA, I’m literally fucking hoping that NO ONE fucking calls me. I’m done with FT.

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  10. Dan 29. May, 2010 at 5:19 pm #

    I can’t stand this site with a passion.  It rewards the worst hand 75% of the time.  I play match after match heads up and I keep getting bad beats when I have them dominated all in.  It’s a disgrace to poker.  I hope someday the people behind online poker are incriminated.  It is a complete sham.

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  11. Sean 29. May, 2010 at 6:02 pm #

    Preach to the choir. It’s hilarious how bent out of shape that site is.

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  12. Biff Henderson 27. Jun, 2010 at 7:07 pm #

    I worked there for 5 years. Bent out of shape doesn’t even begin to describe it.

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  13. Sean 27. Jun, 2010 at 7:12 pm #

    OK, I definitely  need to know more. What were you? Software Engineer?

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  14. Igotfuckedbyfulltilttoomanytimes2 02. Jul, 2010 at 3:50 pm #

    fuck full tilt, fuck it…fuck it…fuck it!Seems the only time you win is by sucking out.Don’t put your chips in with the better hand…you will lose!

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  15. Tsqrl 29. Jul, 2010 at 10:28 pm #

    I have made some money on tilt regardless the situations I will not give examples. Be it as it may I only want to tell you 2 things. First thing is that most of you people here have reached a level after all the hands you played and most probably you are tired of putting your money on the best hand and losing, add to that the fact that you are human and you make mistakes and some of the hands you put your money on are not the best hand in that certain situation and you will sum up a losing swing of hands. The thing is that the site promotes the idiot and not the shark and that’s easy to explain. A donk would not deposit more than 3-4 times money on full tilt if he would just lose every time (like he is actually suposed to) so this crap software makes his crap hand a winner most of the times so he can win and play more.Second thing is more like an advice (for people who really know how to play) is that you should learn to stop pushing all your stack before the flop, this will help you on the long run to protect your stack and you will make deeper runs into mtt’s or whatever it is that you are playing. Given you are facing a donk and your in highjacker position and u raise with aces and the donk called you from the bb (which is normal he won’t throw anything from the bb) and the flop is Q-Q-8 rainow. Be perfectly sure that if he played/he has an A-8 or a Q-J you will never win that hand. Since you have invested on 3-4-5 blinds in this pot you can easily throw your hand away, and look for a stronger hand to play postflop.

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  16. Sean 30. Jul, 2010 at 7:59 am #

    I don’t know who is a losing player overall- I actually am in the green a couple thousand- BUT that doesn’t mean the site isn’t complete shit….no one here was questions mistakes or errors within their own play. The simple fact is that FT does appear to be sketchy…no one can tell me different….

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  19. Mike 14. Sep, 2010 at 10:23 am #

    this is the best post i’ve ever read. i know your pain. im down with FT – im sucked out more often than winning with high percentage hands – 2 and 3 outers HIT ALL THE TIME. Ace 2 > Ace 10 …wtfK5> KQ….wtf i also just lost AK to 10 6 heads up for 20 bucks….im done 

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  20. andy 29. Sep, 2010 at 7:49 pm #

    Yea fulltilt is full of shit, with their players feeling like god playing in the 5 and 2 dollar little shitty ass tournament.  Bad Beats are unbelievable in thsi fucking site.  This is the only place where 2 and 3 outers come out on a regular basis.  I mean seriously?????? Last time I will say this, online poker is rigged.  So is full tilt. FUCK YOU!

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  21. Dude I Fucking Swear FullTiltisRigged also I have winning stats so this is not just some fucking loseing player saying this........ 08. Oct, 2010 at 6:23 pm #

    Hello All. Like most of you i just got my Rakeback for the week and lost all day and with the last tourny i bubbled out with pocket Kings against jack nine. Yes he called my tripple the blind raise pre flop-yes he hit a nine on flop and we were all in , and yes he rivered the ten for a back door straight. Thanks Sean you are a good writer and im glad someone took the time to write this , if i had of written this it would have just came off as an angry rant. Like you guys i just uninstalled full tilt from my computer about ten minutes ago. For starts i want to say i have winning stats….. so you cant use that old line your guys just think its rigged because your losers! Dude full tilt is so fucking rigged ive been playing here threee years the only reason i play is because i get rakeback and i would hate to let full tilt get the satisfaction from me just leaveing that in my account, Any way so this last sesh i had was the worst, I havent played full tilt in months and i logged on a wek ago andh ad 1.30 in my account so i built that dollar up to 55 ove a four day period. so now i had a 55 dollar bank roll i could actually start playing for real……… atleast i thought) Well anyways so i start playing and i get sucked out on 99% of the fucking time i meen my aces kings loseing every fucking time and its obvious the scum bags at tilt have hit the doom switch on my account and wonr let me win a hand , lost my whole bank roll over a two day period and even played with my last 400 points and came in first out of nine and won entry into the 10+2 daily double tourny. so i played that and went out with pocket aces bones preflop against 77, ofcourse he flops a seven right in the middle, Fuck you full tilt and when i win the world series of poker im going to look rightinto the camera and say full tilt is corrupt and a bunch of fucktards

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  22. Mark 14. Oct, 2010 at 12:08 pm #

    Jip, Fulltilt sucks. No more for me. It is just imposable to lose so many perfect preflop hands in a row.

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  23. l 16. Oct, 2010 at 4:25 pm #

    I have gone all in post flop, pre river 10 times in the last 48 hours. All but one time i was first or second chip leader in either a 10, 20, or 30 SNG, aside from the other time where I was playing for cash and lost 22.37$ with a pair of 6′s post flop to AK who hit a king on the river, of course. I lost 8 of those 10 times. All ten times I was a 72% or better favorite to win the hand from where it stood. For everyone who has a similar story awesome, for anyone else I dont care about your fucking opinion on the subject and you are wrong. Numbers do not lie, FUCK FULL TILT I will never use that garbage program ever again.

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  24. Tom 26. Oct, 2010 at 6:58 pm #

    I hate full tilt… my big hands never win and my small hands always do. It scares me.

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  26. Mark 21. Nov, 2010 at 8:15 am #

    I have read all of the above posts, and have no factual data to dispute anyone’s claim. I have been playing Fulltilt for more than 2 syears and have turned a profit of more than $3,188.00. I use no software aides, I don’t know anything about computer codes, I just play a steady game. I have been to the final table in more than 35 freerolls where 7500 or more players are involved. I came in third 3 times in the Daily Dollar. What I’m trying to say is that according to your statements the program should be singling me out for attack and it is not.. What I can prove to anyone who requests, is that Fulltilt computers will make mistakes calling the winner of a hand. I have hand numbers and screen shots (from the last hand history) of the computer not only giving the hand to the wrong person, but calling the hand wrong.Anyone interested in seeing what I have email me at rigslip@gmail.com

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  27. asdf 21. Nov, 2010 at 2:17 pm #

    “im sucked out more often than winning with high percentage hands – 2 and 3 outers HIT ALL THE TIME”- Show graph with Allin-EV to prove how many hands u played and how high the deviation is, if its over more than some small “500 hands”.

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  28. Colin 01. Dec, 2010 at 2:05 pm #

    I totally agree with everything, yesterday 3 hands in a row here it goes: my 66 vs A6 river 3 out ace, very next hand my AK vs AQ river 3 out queen, and next hand my JJ vs 108 off my jacks were black he had diamond and heart, 4 card board flush with diamonds on the river, the odds of this happening are astronomical but yet its every single day shit like this goes on, fucken retarded

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  29. Poker Invest 21. Dec, 2010 at 6:00 pm #

    I heard Patrick Antonius (one of the best cash players) say on Poker After Dark that he had lost 100s of thousands of dollars playing online. And he is a pro for Full Tilt. Even HE is losing on that fucking site.

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  30. william allen 03. Jan, 2011 at 11:04 pm #

    loosing kk to 10 10 is no biggie. I know there are higher odds with your two in the hole. The entire board and ridiculous betting is what convinced me im on a fixed site.Follow me on a heart wrenching hand…….five dollar cash tourney im in fourth with 88 left.A nice cash prize in my sight. Dealt 66 just anted in.The flop is 6 6 ace.First better goes all in about 500 more chips than me.I call the cards show.He has 8 8 and dry on flop.Runner8 river 8.This is bullcrap.You dont go all in without the flop.Someone wake me up.Is this for real.There have to be computer shells on full tilt poker.

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  31. william allen 07. Jan, 2011 at 10:52 pm #

    They want to say it stands for For The Pros?How about Fixed To Perfection…………………………………………………………………….

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  34. Pricilla 14. Jan, 2011 at 12:02 am #

    I have never invested a lot of money online, because to be quite honest, I do not trust it.  Maybe not the software, but the colluding players. Such as two friends playing the same tourney and on the phone with each other….things like that.  Well, over the last week (7 straight days) I have grinded my ass off.  I mean GRINDED.  So it isn’t like, I was on a great fancy winning streak sucking out on people left and right.  I increased my bankroll from 30 dollars to 250. Now this whole time, I wasn’t running that good, and I play live poker and I know a thing about variance.  So in my head I kinda think that maybe my ‘luck’ might get better seeing as I fought for most pots and stole many and didn’t really flop any sets or make a straight or anything.  So anyway, on the 8th day, the shit hit the fan.  I flopped a full house 2′s full of 4′s.  I DO NOT SLOW PLAY ANYTHING.  I let the preflop raiser bet and I raised, he raised me (and so this whole thing wouldnt be dragged out too far) I went all in for like two times what the pot was.  The man called with pocket 55′s and BOOM a 5 comes on the turn.  So I lost like 75 bucks in that hand.  WHAT A RETARD!!!! Is it possibly conceivable that I may of had a bigger pair than him preflop???? Or that I am an asshole in the bigblind and have A4 or something????? I guess not to HIM!  Fulltilt is full of people like that! They do not think, they get lucky.  So on the 8th day, I played maybe 1000 hands and hit maybe 2% of the flops.  GOd knows how many pocket pairs I had, and didn’t hit a set, only the flopped fullhouse that I LOST.  I had pocket queens ffour times and lost with it ALL FOUR times, to JJ, AK, A9 diamonds.  I was put all in everytime pre-flop!  I played 6 tournaments and bubbled everytime. Full tilt likes to say that you get so many bad beats because you see more hands.  So what are they trying to say????? That we are going to run bad more often than run good??? Does that make any sense.  I do not think that full tilt or its creators know a god damn thing about variance. I play live poker and I know that you can run bad for months at a time.  So me having a bad day isn’t so heard of.  But since NOVEMBER, I have lost all of the big pots when I got my money in good, only to win all the small pots.  I am still waiting to win a 75$ pot, just like the won I lost a couple days ago.  But when you play more hands, things should be MORE Evened out!. You can’t just say, “you see more hands so you see more bad beats” Well how come and WHEN will the variance turn around and for four or five days RUN GOOD, instead of four or five days RUN BAD.  It happens in real life, but not on Full Rigged Shit!  YOu run good for one day, and it is taken away from you the next.It also, is the fucking retards that you play with.  YOu cannot win if you play against 5 fish at one table. These people know nothing about pot odds!!! You get more bad beats, because everyone on that site wants to see ALL 5 CARDS,  That is why you go all in pre-flop so much.  I am so sick and tired of having JJ QQ KK and some pompous ass put me all in with AK. It isn’t worth it to play online.  You have to wait 10-15 days to get your money when you cash out, if they even let you cash out. 

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  35. Biff Henderson 15. Jan, 2011 at 1:28 pm #

    Sean, to answer your question, I wasn’t in the development side of Full Tilt Poker.  I was a senior Operations Manager for the support department.

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  36. sean 25. Jan, 2011 at 7:30 pm #


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  37. Robert G 28. Jan, 2011 at 12:13 pm #

    I agree with you as well.  I consider myself a pretty solid player and have minimum tripled my money on several sites.  Except full tilt poker.  There i went broke twice to absurd bad beats like the ones others have mentioned.I stopped putting cash in and just played some free room games when i had some spare time and it seems the types of bad beats continue.Now I understand variance and running bad but on full tilt it’s beyond reason.  Some think the software is programmed to speed up the games by getting all the money in as often as possible.  Something like set against set or king high flush against ace high flush.  When games go on a long time, this is using up server time and they make less money so they want to speed up the games and keep their cash flow at the max.  Now I don’t know for sure if they are cheating but it would explain a lot.  Only on Full Tilt is AK against A7 an underdog lol.  One particular hand I’ll never forget was when I flopped Jacks full of 7′s.  After a series of re-raises,  I moved all in and was called by A8 off.  Next two cards, A, A.  Now if that happened now and again,  I could take it because I understand variance but this kind of thing happened to me there hand after hand for months.It seems that these bad beats happen more in hold’em than other games.  My advice is to delete the software or just play free rooms on it.

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  38. GD 12. Feb, 2011 at 11:09 am #

    So say you get AA vs 77 100 times. 77 will beat you 20 times. Whos to say that the next 80 times you get AA you will win vs 77 EVERYTIME.Runner Runners will happen. Shit i was in a live game and had AA, this guy had K8,   K 10 6 flop. 7 turn 9 river. And i was the caller. lol “LIVE” these things happen. And why would you push all in preflop? You are the chip leader i thought wtf?

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  39. BONZAII41 18. Feb, 2011 at 4:56 pm #

    WOW!! I finally found a site where I can express the total dissatisfaction I have with Full Tilt!!! OH LET ME COUNT THE WAYS!!!From being pissed off for all the things you guys have mentioned, to the following mentioned below items:1. I have taken screen snapshots where someone has openly admitted during the game that they were using software to find someone’s ratings, and EVEN AFTER HAVING A FULL TILT AGENT ADMIT IT WAS A VIOLATION, they have yet to even confront the 11 players I turend in. YEP, I personally followed up with each player 1 week, 2 weeks, and even 2 months later and NOT ONE CONTACT from Full Tilt ever occured.2. I may not be the world’s best Statistician but it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to note that the amount of times that double pocket pairs comes up is uncanny. BUT, to raise the bar even higher, it’s even MORE uncanny that the two pocket pair always seem to be one higher than the other. Meaning, if one person has pocket pair Jacks, the other has Pocket Pair Queens. Etc. Just blows my mind how many times there is repeats of double pocket pairs. 3. and last, goes along with the same gripe everyone displays here, only MORE SO when someone is about to be totally knocked out, and they decide to go ALL IN with NOTHING. It will be like 3 7 offsuit, and they go all in with their small stack, ANYONE who calls, even with pocket Aces, YOU WILL LOSE!!!! It will build a straight, or 4 cards will come up same suit as there’s and uncanny, they won’t be a suit you have, and they will get a flush. Well, here is what I say, enough is enough. We are only LAMBS if we lay down and TAKE IT!!! I am looking for a group of people who has “SOLID” evidence and who, like me, has kept a recording/pic file of continuous game play. Not only becuase I was born in August, and my sign is Leo, but becuase I don’t like being pushed around, or having my money taken from me as if I’m a wimp on a playground and you can take my lunch money anytime you want it!!! But I am seeking to find enough evidence, and history play where a case can be built against these assholes, and they can be held accountable for their actions. And for those idiots who constantly comment on my other blogs saying you can’t SUE Full Tilt poker, PLEASE go research the amount of SUCCESSFUL lawsuits compiled against Full Tilt already, and then remove your Hat Rack from its Levi Abyss. I want to PROVE through the courts that Full Tilt IS a UNFAIR playing system, and once and for all SHUT UP these ignorant yahoos who keep saying we’re just cry babies and that Full Tilt is a fair gaming system. Becuase us players who play constantly know 3 things…1.) Uncanny game play happens way to often….2.) Actual poker pro’s who play during FT tourneys get knocked out way too early in too many events3.) the Nay Sayer commenters are the lucky loose as a goose yahoos that Full Tilt is perverting the game play to ensure they win and is trying to keep around…..  :) With that said, some may say “Chris, I have the evidence you ask for, but I don’t have any money to help create a successful Class Action Lawsuit”… DON’T WORRY. GET ME THE EVIDENCE!!! I assure you, there are MANY GREAT attorneys out there that if we compile the right evidence together, they will take the case and work on a comission only basis.. My goal is not to get rich on a lawsuit settlement, it’s to shove the rod as far up Full Tilt’s ass as I uncomfortably feel they’ve shoved it up mine!!!!What say you friend’s fouled by Full Tilt?? Care to help me in my ongoing pursuit to FINALLY show Full Tilt that they CANNOT get away with highway robbery?? If so please write me at the following email address: chrisban35@gmail.comthank you.

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  40. william 25. Feb, 2011 at 4:04 am #

    i just had to go to ftp i guess to remind me how fucking set up the site is.I have never seen such suck out hands in my life. Im only 42 but have played for a while and the bullshit they do is so ob viously fraudulant.I cant even see how youall reply about one incident. In a three hour span I lost three of a kind twelve times. I went 36 hands without a face in the hole.And if the tourney is taking to long full shit poker has to have a bypass program that deals lower players false gold hole cards only to lose to the chip leaders. We need to alert the others. It is a shame what full shit poker is doing to gambling.

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  41. hugh 17. Mar, 2011 at 3:13 pm #

    100% agree, I continuously check the odds on hands I loose, and I only loose when the other player is a 4 to 1 dog or worst.  Something needs to placed to let everyone know of the scam the site is.  The least they could do is use a totally random card generation.  I think the site should be called bull shit tilt robbery factory! 

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  42. John 17. Apr, 2011 at 5:42 pm #

    Sean your K’s lost to 10′s. Get over it. It happens. Stop crying like a pussy and use your time productively doing something else. And ppl complain about America when all they do is sit on thier ass. morons.

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  43. Anonomous 15. May, 2011 at 7:09 am #

    Try fucking low limit rush. rigged to keep the morons in. 95% they will call a pot bet on the flop with nothing and then hit a pair or runner runner to win the pot. It is unbelievable how many times it happens. Don’t know high limits but the low limits is just to LIE to them and make them think they are good so they will put more money in amd pay more rake. And at low limits they can explain it off as lucky people and bad players and not get done for rigging it…

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  44. yo 02. Aug, 2011 at 5:49 pm #

    Ok, you guys talked me into it…. i’ll try FT poker out. D/Ling the software now…

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  45. LangarMonkey 25. Nov, 2011 at 4:16 pm #

    Obviously all the people debating about online poker integrity they finally know. Online poker is fake as all of other gambling in electronic form. So you better wake up and never donate your money to any fucking poker or other scam bullshit gambling website. I really hope people were involved to this ponzi, get fucked n the ass by some big mother fucking dudes in the prison. Play live to feel alive. 

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  46. guy 15. Feb, 2012 at 11:07 pm #

    all online poker, and card shufflers in live casinos are rigged. end of story.

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  47. Bob 01. Mar, 2012 at 1:46 pm #

    I completely agree I’m so fucking sick of dumbasses getting rewarded for shitty play.  The guy to my right gets a 7 2 off suit which is considered the worst starting hand by many.  Right away I have A K suited so I feel pretty confident.  The flop rolls around and I get a flush right away do I’m stoked I raise big and they guy calls.  Whatever I’ll take his money. The next two fucking cards give him a full fucking house.  This happens all the damn time to me people call when they have nothing or just a small pair and I’m screwed on the river every single time!  I could sell my soul 

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  48. THE BONZAII 25. May, 2012 at 4:03 pm #

    Well, the old saying is, if its working, use it!! So if 7 2 offsuit and pocket 10′s are the shizo, then start going all in when you get those mother fuckers…As for me, I just want to volunteer to drive one of those big trucks that suck out porta-potties for the next year at chilli cook off contests, and once I gather about 2 tons of it, I will rent a fucking blimp to fly over Panama and dump it on BET ONLINE… So I can return the feeling!!! SUCK MY SHIT BET ONLINE!!!!!!

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  49. giga 05. Jun, 2013 at 6:56 am #

    both pokerstars and ftp is fucken shit money stealers, ftp two times close my account with 250$ with no reason, just becouse to steal my money, I fuck ftp and pokerstars, pokerstars also closed my account paired to ftp with 200$. I will fuck all employees of this fucken sites, i was sending them emails during one month, but fucken answer was from them. CLOSE THIS ROOMS, PROHIBITE THEM IN ALL COUNTRIESTHEY ARE MONEY STEALERS. FUUCKKKKKKK THEM

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